Do you realize that if we are going to respect everyone's rights we also have to respect the devoutly religious groups's that disagree with homosexuality right to their opinion?
Quit it. Your human rights are not threatened by extending human rights to persecuted minorities.
Oh no, not me. I'm not a homophobe. I'm just asking for a friend.
Sure, buddy.
I'm not your buddy, pal.
Okay you're taking it as a personal accusation when I'm clearly using "you" in the general sense but we'll let that slide. The point is we've talked about this a hundred times already and a person's right to their opinion, even their religiously mandated opinion, still holds up even if we start treating gay people like people.
But if I disagree with homosexuality I can't express that opinion freely, that's impeding my free speech.
How can I explain this? Disagreeing with homosexuality is like disagreeing with the sun. First of all it's wrong. It's fine, you are legally entitled to the right to be wrong, we'll get more into that in a moment, but you need sit down and think about how you're choosing to think a thing that is wrong. The sun exists. You cannot argue against that without being wrong. When you disagree with a thing, be it a chair, a table or a sexual orientation, you're clearly wrong.
Okay maybe I was just weaseling about that whole "disagree" thing, it's more of a dislike.
I know. So secondly it's garbage.What's wrong with you? The sun is wondrous. It's fabulous and hot. It's never done anything to you. In fact the sun is what makes life on this planet possible.
I think this metaphor is getting a little out of hand, surely you don't claim homosexuality makes life possible when if you want to be pedantic it's doing the exact opposite.
Well, overpopulation is a problem among the humans. But the point is gays have more style than me and lesbians are prettier than me, they add beauty and strangeness to the world and blaming them for your inability to tolerate people who're different only makes you an asshole.
So now I'm an asshole for having an opinion. This is what I'm talking about.
Yes, yes you are. What's the problem?
I'm not allowed to freely state my opinion without being mobbed by self-appointed crusaders like yourself, dick.
Do you have a problem with me using my free speech to argue against your opinion? There's this classic xkcd strip that you may find speaks to you personally.
Of course not, you have the right to disagree with me just like I have the right to disagree with homosexuality.
So what's the problem? No one's getting punished for their opinion. Except the homosexuals are punished for someone else's opinion.
You're saying you are not punishing me? You think I'm an asshole and an idiot.
I have no authority over you, so no, nothing I can do to you can prevent you from using your free speech.
But you hurt my feelings.
Sorry?
You don't understand, man. Everywhere I turn everyone hates me just for expressing my opinion. I can't even call my enemies out on their cowardly tactics in my videogames by shouting the f-word without getting lectured.
Well, that's their opinion. Free speech cuts both ways. And I know it's not a contest, but your hurt feelings don't actually compare to gay people getting raped with broken bottles and fucking crucified.
But don't you see, when public opinion is so overwhelmingly one-sided, having the wrong opinion makes you afraid to speak out. It's not government censorship, but it is effectively keeping a segment of the population silenced.
Maybe that's how free speech works? You're familiar with the free market, right? I bet you love the free market.
Why yes, I do. Viable businesses prosper and create jobs and non-viable businesses fail because no one supports them. Everything works out naturally, and in the end everyone wins.
Think of your opinion as a business. What happens if dsagreeing with homosexuality, or whatever you're calling it, doesn't have any support? I submit to you that hate is a non-viable business.
But I do disagree with homosexuality. I admit I am a wretched man, I'm not kind or open-minded or whatever it is you have in you that lets you come to terms with a world that has gay people in it I do not have, but that is honestly how I feel. What do you expect me to do?
What do you want to do? Where does the notion of disagreeing with homosexuality take you? Precisely what practical actions do disagreeing with homosexuality entail? Sitting around being angry at gay people for existing? Assuming that actually doing the work to better yourself is off the table.
Let me think for a moment. Okay I got it. I want to be able to tell people how I feel without being yelled at. That's not so much to ask, is it?
Why should they have to listen to you? Don't they have the right to not be around your disgusting, hateful bullshit if they want to?
But, um, are you telling me I should be satisfied with a lonely life, without anyone to talk to?
Do you not have a single person you can talk to? Someone who shares your opinion and doesn't judge you? Reddit have tons of people just like you, entite communities built up around a mutual fear and hate for those who are, throughout the western world, legally considered less than fully human, i.e. homosexuals.
I can only talk to people who already agree with me? That's no fun.
If you don't want to say anything worthwhile and you don't want anyone to hurt your feelings, yes, that is who you can talk to. Lots of people have fun talking to people they agree to, maybe because they're talking about fun things.
Thank you, voice in my head. You've given me some stuff to think about. But I'm tired now so I'm going to go back to wallow in my hateful cocoon of inadequacy or whatever you want to call it.
It's been very unpleasant. But seriously, you can be a better person than this. I believe in you.
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